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• Deskjet 710/720/810/820/1000 Series printers - Patch for 64 bit Vista and Windows 7

  There is a problem with the 64-bit, Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 or 8.1 drivers which causes the spooler crash with the following HP Deskjet printers:

  DeskJet 710

  DeskJet 712

  DeskJet 720

  DeskJet 722

  DeskJet 810

  DeskJet 812

  Deskjet 820

  DeskJet 822

  DeskJet 1000

  The attachment contains a fix for this problem for Vista and Windows 7.

  [The patch does not work for Windows 8, 8.1, or 10 x 64 systems.  There are efforts to this address, if a solution is developed it will be shown here.  [{Edit - I did not progress by getting the patch to run in Windows 8 x 64.}]

  First of all make sure that the driver for the installed printer.  If the driver has not been installed go to start devices and printers, add printer, the local printer, choose the appropriate port (for the converters, USB-parallel, the port likely USB001: or maybe USB002 :), then click Windows Update then choose HP for the manufacturer and select the appropriate printer.)

  Apply the patch as follows: log in to the computer with an administrator account.  Download the patch by clicking on this link or on the trombone at the end of this post.  Save the hotfix on your computer, then unzip it.  Then, copy the three DLL files in the following directory: %windir%\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3

  Note that %windir%\System32 is a system variable that points to the location of the Windows directory. For most systems it will be C:\Windows.  You can click Start, computer, and type %windir%\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3 in the address bar and it is in the right place.

  This can be done from a DOS command prompt if BACK is opened with the "run as Administrator" command or to explore with a copy and paste.  Depending on your UAC settings, you may need to provide confirmation.  Also allow existing files to be replaced if you are prompted.

  This patch is not necessary and should not be applied to a 32-bit version of Vista or Windows 7.

  Thanks to extraordinary Microsoft engineer Alan Morris forguidelines for patch.

  Update - here is that of the more detailed installation instructions:

  Download the patch on the DJ_Patch.zip at the bottom of the page and save it on your computer.  Now click on the file and open it, and then extract the fix in a directory that is easy to find. (I use c:\temp. If this directory does not exist you can create it as follows: open the administrative BACK prompts by clicking Start, all programs, accessories, and then right-click on CMD. EXE and select run as administrator. Click in the DOS window, and then type the following command:

  MD c:\temp

  CD \temp

  Now extract the patch files in the c:\temp directory (all, extract c:\temp chose as a destination).

  [Update - Windows security settings can prevent these files from being used, please open computer, type c:\temp in the address bar and then right click on each of the dll files and select Properties.]  If there is a message indicating the properties file has been downloaded from the internet and can be blocked and then unlock the file before continuing.]

  Then, click back to the administrative DOS prompt and type the following: (the green stuff are comments, do not type them...)

  *. DLL DIR (just to check that the files are there, it should list hpvdb720.dll, hpvdb820.dll and hpwm5db1.dll and perhaps others).

  Net stop spooler (ensures that the files are not in use.)

  Copy hpvdb720.dll C:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3 (this is for the Deskjet 710/712/720/722)

  Copy hpvdb820.dll c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3 (this covers the Deskjet 820 and 822)

  Hpwm5db1.dll c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3(this covers the Deskjet 1000 copy)

  NET Start Spooler

  Output

  [Edit - note that these DLL files will already be in the directory.  You will get a warning asking if it's OK to replace the files, say "Yes".]

  At this point, the patch is installed and ready to print.

  Note that here printers do not support USB connections, they have only the parallel ports. [Edit - if your printer has a parallel port to use, it will be probably much less problematic than the use of a converter USB / parallel].   If you use a make you converter USB / parallel it is supported in your operating system.  The following messages are reported by cables USB-parallel that are supposed to work in Windows 7.   A driver is required for the converter USB / parallel besides the driver of the printer.  For converters supported, it is usually provided automatically in Windows 7.  Note: the appropriate to select for USB-parallel converter port is often USB001:.  I've heard of cases where the port was USB002: or LPT3: as well.  If the port you are using is unable (after applying the fix) try to change the port by going to start, devices and printers, right-click on your printer and select printer properties, then click the Ports tab.

  Mick4 wrote: the problem is that I only could unzip the 3 dll files but don't know how to replace the bad dll files. Mick 4

  If you use Windows 7 do the following: log in as a user with the administrater properties.  [The following assumes that you are using IE as your browser] Click on the here link and select "Save".   Once the download is complete, select "Open folder", then right-click on the DJ_patch.zip file and select extract all.   If extract all is not an option, then click on "Open with" and select Windows Explorer.

  

  Leave the default directory and check the box "Show extracted files when you are finished", excerpt.   Click Start, computer, and type % windir%\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3.  Arrange the windows so that you can access the two parts of the window.  Go in the first pane and select the three files dll, hpvdb720.dll, hpvdb820.dll and hpwm5db1.dll.  Now drag and drop them to the % windir%\system32\spool\drivers\x64\3 window, select copy and answer to 'replace' in the dialog box.

  Note: %windir%\System32 is a system variable that points to the Windows directory.  For most systems it will be C:\Windows, but it can vary depending on the configuration of NDO of hardware configuration of the computer.  If you type %windir%\SysWoW64\cmd.exe in the address bar in Explorer or in start, search programs and files, it will find the right directory.

• The update wants to do a net framework 1.1 SP1 on Windows XP, Vista and windows server 2008 x 86. KB2656353 but can not. Why not?

  The update wants to do a net framework 1.1 sp1 on Windows xp, vista and windows swrver 2008 x 86 (KB2656353), but can not.  Why not?  He simply has it again and again without updating.

  I finally got by a 'person' and he took over the computer.  It took almost 2 hours, but he finally managed to fix the problem and get the update installed.  Hooray!

• Microsoft Outlook is compatible with Windows Vista and Windows 7?

  Is there a way by which Outlook can be installed on a computer, Windows Vista and Windows 7.

  We have replacements for Outlook. If so, how to get one?

  Farhad

  «Farhad...» "wrote in message News: 05c1a45d-b7ab-4b99-8a06-b131bb67989b...

  I wanted to know about Outlook Express. I heard that its not available with newer versions of Windows. Is Windows Live Mail used, what is the replacement for Outlook express in Windows Vista and Windows 7. Farhad

  Outlook Express has been replaced by Windows Mail in Vista - and completely removed in Windows 7.
  Windows Live Mail is now supported by MS free mail client and can import messages and contacts in the OE stores.
   
  Note that the upgrade to Windows 7, XP requires a format of the HD - back up your data in the first place, if do a upgrade.
  
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  Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The lazy three fingers

• Sharing data between Windows Vista and Windows 7

  As Windows Vista cannot join the homegroup, which is a feature of Windows 7, how the files, folders or drives are shared between Windows Vista and Windows 7?

  Hello

  Set you up a network between Vista and Windows 7:

  "Networking of computers running different versions of Windows.

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows/networking-home-computers-running-different-Windows#networking-home-computers-running-different-Windows=Windows-Vista

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows/networking-home-computers-running-different-Windows#networking-home-computers-running-different-Windows=Windows-7

  "Learn how share files and printers on a network with computers running.
  Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7. ... This article also covers the
  necessary parameters to set up file and printer sharing on your network. »

  See you soon.

• Connection to the network with Vista and Windows 7 computers

  A similar question was answered before, but it's XP computers I use Vista and Windows 7.

  I have a Windows 7 computer that is part of a home network and who also has a connected printer. I want to access the printer from a Vista computer that is also on the network. When I try to connect to the Windows 7 computer, I get the error "logon failure: the user has not granted the type of logon required on this computer."

  I've seen solutions have been when the system tries to access the printer was an XP system. Can someone help me with this problem?

  Thank you

  Jim

  Hi Jim,.

  ·         Is file sharing enabled?

  ·         You have disabled password protection?

  Try to check the Advanced sharing settings in the network and sharing Center. To do this, follow these steps.

  a. click Start, Control Panel and then click network and sharing Center.

  b. now, click change advanced settings for sharing.

  c. now make sure that file and printer sharing is activated on and protected by password sharing is turned off.

  You can also see the article for more information:

  Networking of computers running different versions of Windows

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/networking-home-computers-running-different-versions-of-Windows

  Let us know the results.

• Help me to solve the problem with modem hspa usb on Windows Vista and Windows 7

  Hi, I have a problem with my USB HSPA modem when I tried to install in my Windows Vista 64 - bit PC. Sometimes it's OK, but sometimes it has encountered an error trying to install it. After the installation of the almost complete progress, reports of windows as "Unknown material" or "driver is not found. Maybe after a few tries, I was able to install the modem. But later, its happened again. I take the modem at the other PC with XP, it is still OK, but it happened again with Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit home version. so could you help me to fix it? is it a bug of Windows Vista and windows 7? Thank you very much

  Hello

  go to the website of modem manufacturers and look for the last vista and/or firmware for windows 7

• I installed Windows Live Mail and now am trying to migrate mail from my laptop which has been using Vista and Windows Mail.

  I just bought a new desktop computer using Windows 7.  I installed Windows Live Mail and now am trying to migrate mail from my laptop which has been using Vista and Windows Mail.  I need help please.

  The Vista system export your contacts and send to CSV files, then import them into Windows Live Mail.

  Good luck.

• Differences between Vista and Windows XP BIOS on Satellite A200 - 13 M

  Hello!

  I'm new to the forum, so I apologize if already, this question has been asked.
  I have a Satellite A200 - 13 M (PSAE6) with windows xp. As my computer crash, I send in the recovery and I pick it up today. I've noticed that people who fix my computer Flash the bios with the 1.70v bios for Vista...

  I would like to know if they are the differences between a bios for vista and one for xp?
  As I have Xp installed, can I Flash the bios with a bios designed for xp? (5.30v)

  thx a lot.

  The difference between the BIOS is BIOS XP allows the FN XP keys and some other features, so the same does the Vista BIOS. There are other things of compatibility based intaglio the BIOS.

  In your case, please install the BIOS for WIndows XP.

  Welcome them

• NB100 and graphics issues in Vista and Windows 7

  Hi all.

  I have two NB100s and I wanted to upgrade to Windows 7. Everything went well until what the graphics driver has been loaded. Responses of the screen were as refresh once per second 5, then also the system froze for a few seconds - impossible to work on it. The case even on the two NB100s and even with the new drivers from Windows update. I'm curious to know what is the problem, because a lot of guys have written that they are running windows 7 and everyting is ok right after installation. I tried Windows Vista and the same situation has occurred. The only way I can use it with Windows 7 is to use the XP drivers. But then the aero glass does not. I just got idea if there is no problem with the new bios 1.6. It seems that other older guys NB100 and use Windows 7. Could someone help me? Has anyone tried Windows 7 with bios 1.6? THX.

  Hello!

  I think the problem is that you are using a beta version of the operating system and not a final version and these errors are normal because nobody can say that Windows 7 beta runs perfectly and without problems on all laptops or computers.

  However, see the Intel Web site for the latest drivers. Perhaps there is a newer version than on the Windows Update Web site.

  Good bye

• James Bond 007: Nightfire is fully compatible with Windows Vista and Windows 7 32 and 64 bit

  This game is FULLY compatible with Vista, Server 2008/2008 R2 and windows 7 both x 86 and x 64. A patch of developed community of third nightfire to www.007nightfire.net support for monitors, corrects random CTD (crash on the desktop), improves multiplayer performance online by reducing the lag and overflow, as well as many other improvements. You can also freely download user made mods and new multiplayer maps for the game on this Web site.

  install video codec Indeo and this will solve your problem

• Google Chrome message "this computer will stop soon receive updates of Google Chrome for Windows Vista and Windows XP.

  Is someone can you please tell me when Google Chrome will stop supporting 2007 Service Pack 2 for Windows Vista Home

  Go Mary

  I posted a substitution for Vista and XP operating systems. Please follow my instructions in this thread, or switch to Mozilla Firefox or Opera browser:

  http://www.MSFN.org/Board/topic/175099-instructions-Google-chrome-end-of-support-VistaXp/

  I always highly recommend to switch to Mozilla Firefox, Opera, or one of many other supported browsers.

  While my dose turns off the message, you will NO longer receive updates of Google Chrome.

  Given that Microsoft will support Vista at least a year, I don't understand Google dropping support early reasoning.

• Quality of its poor window media player with vista and windows 7

  Since I bought my first Vista PC three years ago I never liked playing my music with Windows media player. This is because the sound quality is irritating. For some reason, the volume of any song keeps rising and falling when he plays with the media player but the same player sound perfectly with any other player. Note, in this case with windows Vista and when I upgraded to Windows 7 I have always noticed the same problem. Many of my friends who use Windows vista or windows 7 also complained about this problem.
  Does anyone have a solution to this? Because I can't play my songs with windows media player on my pc windows 7 and I had to keep my old windows xp just to play my songs.

  Hello

  It could be mainly mediocre speakers. Check you drivers.

  Control Panel - device - SOUNDS Manager - look for HD Audio Mine said RealTek High Definition Audio

  Make sure you write down the description and model double click top - tab drivers - write version. Now
  Click on update drivers who cannot do anything like MS is far behind the certification of drivers. Then RIGHT
  CLICK above and UNINSTALL - REBOOT - this will rebuild the driver stack.

  1. go to the system manufacturer's website and search for the driver the newest download - SAVE - will click with the button straight on and RUN AS ADMIN
  (This is your rescue.) REBOOT after each installation of driver.

  NOTE: Driver Sound often rollback so check the version after installation and reboot to see if the version you
  installed is there, if not repeat - restart until it is. It may take several tries depending on the recommitments how he
  the fact.

  Then do the same for the site of the manufacturer of the device.

  Look at the sites of the manufacturer for drivers - and the manufacturer of the device manually.
  http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driverssupport/HT/driverdlmfgr.htm

  How to install a device driver in Vista Device Manager
  http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/193584-Device-Manager-install-driver.html

  Many players have some equalizers and there are 3 rd party addins as FXsounds - DFX.

  Hope these helps.
  Rob - bicycle - Mark Twain said it is good.

• Internet Explorer 9 problems with Vista and Windows 7, are there known issues that are causing to freeze or crash completely computers?

  I was warned of updates via Windows Update Internet Explorer is available (important update) for my desktop running on Windows Vista and my laptop running on Windows 7.

  I had to go back to Internet Explorer 8 on Vista because it keeps freezing. Is that what someone else has experienced this problem because I'm not going back on until I know it is safe to do so. Can someone advise me on this please?

  Window 7 is on my computer, but my laptop but since Internet Expplorer 9 installing my computer has an accident and I received a message saying that windows had closed my computer to save my files etc. also since the installation, I get a black screen, does not last a long time but its worrying because that's what happened before the crash. Can someone advise me on this please?

  I am a real novice, not to speak of mind at all and I was wondering also if someone else knows the problems that I am and if you is microsoft aware of these problems and try to solve a problem for them. I think they have out there soon.

  Are you worried? Yes. any aid granted by a person would be much apreciated. Thank you

  I was warned of updates via Windows Update Internet Explorer is available (important update) for my desktop running on Windows Vista and my laptop running on Windows 7.

  I had to go back to Internet Explorer 8 on Vista because it keeps freezing. Is that what someone else has experienced this problem because I'm not going back on until I know it is safe to do so. Can someone advise me on this please?

  Window 7 is on my computer, but my laptop but since Internet Expplorer 9 installing my computer has an accident and I received a message saying that windows had closed my computer to save my files etc. also since the installation, I get a black screen, does not last a long time but its worrying because that's what happened before the crash. Can someone advise me on this please?

  I am a real novice, not to speak of mind at all and I was wondering also if someone else knows the problems that I am and if you is microsoft aware of these problems and try to solve a problem for them. I think they have out there soon.

  Are you worried? Yes. any aid granted by a person would be much apreciated. Thank you

  I am I have the same situation, because I installed Internet explorer 9. The only thing that differs with us is that I kept IE9, and I'm dealing with it full of hope that MS will return with a patch soon!

• Dual boot Windows Vista and Windows 8

  Hello world

  I'm having the following problem: I had Windows 7 as primary OS (C drive) and then installed Windows 8 (on drive D) that is of dual boot. Everything was working fine until I decided to remove Windows 7 from the drive C. I have formatted the drive using Acronis Disk Director 11. After the reboot, the computer was not bootable. I had a reistallation DVD of Vista and installed. Now, I have Windows Vista on C and Windows 8 for D drive that is not bootable. My question is how to get rid of Windows 8 without having my computer starts plu?

  Thanks in advance,

  Peter

  Hello

  try to start your computer in safe mode on Vista and remove windows 8 in d ' training of formatting it and check if the problem is resolved.

  Start your computer in safe mode

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/start-your-computer-in-safe-mode

  If you still have the sam e problem then see below

  Try typing F8 at startup and in the list of Boot selections, select Mode safe using ARROW top to go there > and then press ENTER.

  Try a restore of the system once, to choose a Restore Point prior to your problem...

  Click Start > programs > Accessories > system tools > system restore > choose another time > next > etc.

  See you soon.

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  If the above does not work, try to make a Bootable ERD to do a Startup Repair:

  As is the case with most computers/laptops these days, they do not come with good Vista disc to repair only the recovery disks.

  As your grave in the category above, download the ISO on the provided link and do a repair of the disc.

  Go to your Bios/Setup, or the Boot Menu at startup and change the Boot order to make the DVD/CD drive 1st in the boot order, then reboot with the disk in the drive.

  At the startup/power on you should see at the bottom of the screen either F2 or DELETE, go to Setup/Bios or F12 for the Boot Menu.

  When you have changed that, insert the Bootable disk you did in the drive and reboot.

  You can make a tool to restart system, System Restore, etc. with it.

  Read all the info on the website on how to create and use it.

  http://NeoSmart.net/blog/2008/Windows-Vista-recovery-disc-download/

  ISO Burner: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/active-isoburner.html

  It's a very good Vista repair disc.

  You can do a system restart tool, system, etc it restore.

  There is not a disk of resettlement.

  And the 32-bit is what normally comes on a computer, unless 64-bit.
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  You can save your data in Mode safe, ifit loads correctly.

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  You can only do a upgrade repair facility if the Service Pack on the Vista DVD is not lower than the SP installed, in your case you have installed SP2.
  DVD SP level. must be the same or higher to be able to do a repair installation.
  Your DVD must be SP2

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  Unless you do regular backups, nothng is guaranteed re data.

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  Data recovery:

  1. slave of your hard drive in another computer and read/save your data out there.

  2. put your Hard drive in a USB hard drive case, plug it into another computer and read/save from there.

  3 Alternatively, use Knoppix Live CD to recover data:

  http://www.Knopper.NET/Knoppix/index-en.html

  Download/save the file Knoppix Live CD ISO above.

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  http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

  Download the Vista software from the link above.

  After installing above ISO burning software, right click on the Knoppix ISO file > copy the Image to a CD.

  Knoppix is not installed on your PC; use only the resources of your PC, RAM, graphics etc.

  Change the boot order in YOUR computer/laptop to the CD/DVD Drive 1 in the boot order.

  Plug a Flash Drive/Memory Stick, BOOT with the Live CD, and you should be able to read the hard drive.

  When the desktop loads, you will see at least two drive hard icons on the desktop (one for your hard drive) and one for the USB key.

  Click on the icons of hard drive to open and to understand which drive is which.

  Click the icon for the USB drive and click on "Actions > Change the read/write mode" so you can write to disk (it is read-only by default for security reasons).

  Now to find the files you want to back up, just drag and drop them on the USB. When you're done, shut down the system and remove the USB key.

• How multiboot Vista and Windows 7?

  How can I install Windows 7 and keep my old operating system available? I have bought discs Windows 7 and you want to load, but I want to keep my Vista too. Is this possible?

  Hello

  Install multiple operating systems (multiboot) - Vista
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot

  Set up a dual-boot system
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/set-up-a-dual-boot-system-from-Windows-Vista-inside-out

  Install multiple operating systems (multiboot) - Windows 7
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot

  Change the default operating system for startup (multiboot) - Vista
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/change-the-default-operating-system-for-startup-multiboot

  Change the default operating system for startup (multiboot) - Windows 7
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/change-the-default-operating-system-for-startup-multiboot

  Create a system for Windows 7 multiboot
  http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee851553.aspx

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  Partition help: (you can edit partitions as long as the available space and other usual considerations
  are taken into account).

  How to make a partition in Windows Vista
  http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=0iWEWysI6jY

  How to cut and create a Partition with Vista disk management
  http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/95398-disk-management-shrink-partition.html

  Create and format a hard disk partition
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/fr-FR/Windows-Vista/create-and-format-a-hard-disk-partition

  How Partition in Windows Vista (extend and shrink)?
  http://www.LyteByte.com/2007/02/19/how-to-partition-in-Windows-Vista-extend-and-shrink/

  How to resize a partition on Windows Vista
  http://www.vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-Windows-Vista
  How to remove and extend a Partition with Vista disk management
  http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/95418-disk-management-delete-extend.html

  How to remove a partition on your hard drive?
  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_remove_a_partition_on_your_hard_drive

  Change or resize Partition (NTFS, FAT or FAT32) size in Windows Vista
  http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/11/27/change-or-resize-partition-NTFS-FAT-or-FAT32-size-in-Windows-Vista/

  How to resize, extend, reduce, remove, Merge Partitions in Vista.
  http://www.WinVistaClub.com/T11.html

  How to use the Fdisk tool and the format tool to partition or repartition a hard disk
  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/255867

  Create and format a hard disk partition
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/create-and-format-a-hard-disk-partition

  I can I repartition my hard disk?
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/can-I-REPARTITION-my-hard-disk

  Formatting disks and drives: frequently asked questions
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/formatting-disks-and-drives-frequently-asked-questions

  How to create a Partition in Windows 7
  http://windows7news.com/2009/09/23/how-to-create-a-partition-in-Windows-7/

  Windows 7 - create a Partition (HD) - video
  http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=l2XmBGmYfGQ

  How to resize a Partition on Windows Vista & Windows 7, using disk management.
  http://www.WinVistaClub.com/T11.html

  I hope this helps and happy holidays!

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