T460: Battery-management-Bug in BIOS update 1.10?

Hello

A week ago, I've updated the BIOS of my Thinkpad T460 of 1.07 Version 1.10 and then some time later I noticed that from there on an internal battery pack was released before externally. Normally, it should be the other way around.

At first, I couldn't imagine it has something to do with the new BIOS but today I installed the old Version 1.07 again once and now it works exactly as before the update and battery packs are unloaded in the right order.

I have also heard Lenovo engineers and programmers read in this forum and so I decided to write about this problem here. It is perhaps possible to fix this bug in Version 1.10 with a new BIOS update.

01/05/2016:

Today, I installed the update again to see if it is a problem that appear each time and at the beginning it was fine, one internal was released in first then the external track. But when I started to load my thinkpad I noticed that now, right here, it's the other way round, so the external battery has been charged to the first and not internal, as would be normal. So I think it's really a T460 BIOS Version 1.10 bug affecting battery management.


Tags: ThinkPad Notebooks

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    (2) it is always possible that the BIOS might be OK, but the CMOS data has been corrupted somehow. If so, the CMOS of compensation could solve problem. But I wasn't able to find a clear cmos from the outside button, and after disasembling I took battery, with no good result. I try to leave the MOBO without battery for a period more long (I left it about 20 seconds) just in case where 20 seconds are not all capacitors for well pass zero values. I don't have a lot of hope in this point.

    (3) try to get a REAL good update from Toshiba. I contacted technical support several times, and I was able to verify that they are only - phone operators, with a script in front of them, and when the problem is going - out of reach, they fall in the same response: "you must go to an ASP. I still have a faint hope to find someone who really knows a little and could illuminate with a good BIOS in this disc.

    (4) as far as I could find, this BIOS is not any BIOS-manufacturer known. It seems that it has been developed by Toshiba (own brand), so the Phoenix crisis recovery disk won't be of any help here. As well as any other BIOS recovery tool not designed for Toshiba BIOS. But I'm open to all ideas, which could be put to the test more or less safely. (Remember that the 'BIOS-BOOT-PART' feature still works, I don't want to lose that possibility alone of redemption).

    Wwwaaaaoooowww... what a falks long post! Sorry about that!

    Forgive me, but I wanted to be really clear.

    Someone give some tips or advice will be greatly appreciated.

    Please don't say that I shouldn't be doing... I already know that. I already did some research and found my mistakes, not to repeat them. Now, I need to spend, to move and to try to solve this problem, or at least learn to solve similar things. As much as possible.

    Thank you once again, in advance, and sorry again.

    FenixDigital

    Post edited by: Fenix_D
    Modified subject to beter reflect what the problem is (apparently erroneous file BIOS in Toshiba Download Center).

    Hi Fenix,

    Wow... He tooked a lot of time to read your post...

    Maybe I can help you.

    The Bios in the website is the right one. If you have downloaded the right version of the Bios.

    Toshiba America, which has most of the time the Askiris you used isn't accurate models for Toshiba Europe.
    This should be the reason, why does not the readme file contain the European model.

    I'll try to do an update of the fresh Bios using the update of the traditional Bios.

    Copy the files on the disk, put it in the floppy drive, press and hold power on the notebook tab.
    After that the laptop is off, press on and hold the key on the left side of space power on the laptop new bar and wait until it turns off again.

    If your laptop does not power perhaps the most, the RAM is default?

    Therefore, if the use of the traditional Bios or change memory doesn't help, and your laptop is still dead you should go to a SPA, but it will cost money.

    I now have my fourth Toshiba laptop and I had never problems with the Bios updates.

    The 1410 is very old I think, so before you go to a SPA, I'd buy a new ;)

    Best regards

    Maurice

  • Satellite A500-138 60 fps instead of 99 fps after the BIOS update.

    Hello!

    Before I have a little problem with my fan, but I do it with the BIOS update. His work!

    Now, I have a little problem of different...
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    Its make me crazy...

    Hello

    Seems the CPU and GPU don t run full implementation after the BIOS update.
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    Check to see if you can change an option is the BIOS.
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  • Satellite Pro A300-15 t does not restart on the current after BIOS update

    Hello

    There is something wrong with my Satellite Pro A300-15 t. I made an update of the BIOS of toshiba recently with the latest Web site and it installed successfully. But after the installation, I noticed that my laptop does not restart when it is connected to the power adapter. It restarts and works perfectly when its power on the battery.

    After restart or start-up the laptop (on battery), it will be well when the adapter is connected.

    But, when I reboot when the adapter is connected, after his stop, just power light turns on for a second or two and gets off automatically. And not even the laptop starts manually by pressing the power button (LCD is turned off when the power light comes on for 2 seconds) when the adapter remains connected.

    So what I do is to pull the plug on the adapter, then start the computer manually by pressing the power button and reconnect the plug of the adapter to the laptop starts. It works well this way. Rest everything works perfectly.

    And this problem started after the update of the BIOS. Now, I don't know how to remedy the situation I don't know if there was a bug in the last update of the bios.

    Details of the update from: http://gulf.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/download_bios.jsp?service=AE

    30/07/08
    Update the BIOS
    This Bios update adds functionality to your system.
    Satellite Pro A300 Toshiba of 3, 60 - WIN

    So please help me to solve the problem.

    Thank you best regards &,.
    Manjit M.

    Hello

    Try to update the BIOS again
    In addition, access the BIOS settings and set the default parameters. Save it and try again.

    Good bye

  • Lenovo E560 does not start after the BIOS update

    Finally, gave in the throbbing Lenovo and updated the BIOS on my E560 - big mistake.

    He's been through and installed correctly, no problems with chess, etc. (finally none that appeared on the screen).

    The laptop delivered to market very well, he crossed and updated the BIOS, restarted once and... nothing.

    At the present time I jumped the battery and power, reset the device (press the pwr for 15 sec, etc.), removed all devices, etc., etc., google for similar events and so little matter what I did, the laptop is as dead as a brick. I have the red on but that is all. Nothing doesn't appear on the screen (so can't see UEFI/BIOS), no fans start and the only thing that does the job is that the DVD drive can be opened.

    It's a relatively recent laptop (minimum 12 months so still under warranty), but as a word of warning to the other owners E560 - DO NOT INSTALL THE latest VERSION of the BIOS update.

    Well not unless you want a weight of expensive paper for your office.

    Managed to get everything sorted out (thanks to Lenovo support).

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    Hi all

    I was updating the BIOS on TOSHIBA SATELLITE C660-13R of 64-bit windows 7. Downloaded driver toshiba web. To halfway the portable installation hangs. I left it for 40 minutes to run, but he did not return to the normal state. As the motherboard fan began to move at high speed, I decided to take out the battery. Result when I power my laptop back I 1 beep from the motherboard and a black screen.

    Can someone help me please?

    Of course, the BIOS update procedure has not. Something was wrong during the update process and it seems that the EMRPOM module was not properly flashed.
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    Possible solution?
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    Hello everyone,

    It is my first post on the forum, although I've read here a lot.

    My problem seems to be classic: had several problems with my Satellite P205D-4378 crash.
    Visited the Web from Toshiba site, they have a BIOS update that fixes the problems that I have. I do the update, CRAAAASH!, dead computer.

    Death seriously.

    Turn on the other computer, search, find a few websites on "crisis recovery disk Phoenix.

    I read religiously, run to the store, buy a FDD, some readers, usb, the Bios file download, rename, make the drive...

    Trembling with anxiety, I press FN + b, switch on the machine, and it works!

    Well well... at least the works of the Zombie fashion: pink LED, high speed fans, manages the USB FDD, begins the USB FDD, he read for a good two minutes! Then nothing.

    'It's ok, it'll be ok' I think. The starting block is a program that is not more than 4 k, the computer has no bios, impossible to use anything, and must digest a 1000 k bios.

    I wait, nothing happens.

    SO what now? I tried the 'start FDD' ten times at least. Last try, I waited all night! I Went sleep after the computer read the floppy).

    Whatever I do, once the disk has been read, nothing happens.

    I turn it off, I unplug it, I try with battery, no battery, I speak well, I insult, I pray, I cry, I swear... NOTHING WORKS!

    I do something wrong, somewhere.

    On my drive are the phlash16.exe, the minidos.sys and the bios.wph (extract from a file named AASA40. ROM, downloaded with the pack zip on the toshiba site)

    What should I do? I read it on some forums that computer makers like Dell and Compaq deliberately disable the Boot Block Flash, is the same thing with Toshiba?

    The latest version of the bios that I have downloaded is corrupted?

    Is it possible that my motherboard is physically by the update failed? In this case, is it easy to replace yourself?

    I don't want to be ripped off by Toshiba for repair, if the only thing that I miss so far is a combination of keys at the end of the flash Boot Block recovery...

    In short, I'm lost.

    No idea to this wonderful group of reflection?

    Thank you

    Baaharb.

    I think that the update of the BIOS based on windows is security more like an update of the traditional Bios.
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    The BIOS using focused on victory, this risk does not exist.

    I know a lot of people who uses a bad BIOS and damaged module BIOS ROM.

    Anyway. To show you, I think that there is one solution as mentioned by delvoie, you will have to contact the local ASP.

    See you soon

  • Satellite L505-13D - BIOS update error

    I have a problem in my charge battery (plugged in, does not support) lift reading online, no action can fix it until I saw the post says that the BIOS update will restart my laptop and solve the problem, I download the latest updated BIOS Toshiba support and drivers trying to install update I get an error message said.

    There is an error occurred, please check the version of bios elements above 210 below.
    battery capacity over 10%
    AC is attached

    I must say after my many previous ways to solve the main problem of my battery charge is 0%
    What can I do to make my bios up to date?

    I guess that charged battery properly in the past, even if the BIOS is not updated...
    This is why I'm not sure if it's really a BIOS problem.

    In any case, try to uninstall compatible ACPI control method battery.
    This can be found in the device-> battery Manager

    After this, check if the battery would start the loading process.

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    Make sure you have enough disk space. If a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer of changing video card try update driver

    Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. disable BIOS memory option such as caching or shading if you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components. Restart your computer, press F8 to select advanced startup options, and then select Safe mode

    Techniqal Information:
    Stop: 0X0000008E (0XC000001D, 0X818A8803, 0X88360A94, 0 x 0000000)

    Hello

    For troubleshooting see BlueScreens using BlueScreenView and MyEventViewer and other methods
    This thread.

    http://social.answers.Microsoft.com/forums/en-us/vistarepair/thread/842fa8cf-535e-4b5d-9416-85eb31edbe6f

    Two main causes of this blue screen video drivers and BIOS - check with the system manufacturer
    Site for graphics (Video) card and BIOS, then on site of the manufacturer of the device for the last video. It may be
    other pilots to check there. Disable the installation of self as those who are older and if
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    See methods of update driver generic in the next message.

    BCCode: 8th 0x0000008E is the same as 0x1000008E

    Cause

    Bug KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED control is a very common bug control. To interpret it, you must identify which exception has been generated.

    Common exception codes are:

    • 0xc0000005: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION indicates that a memory access violation has occurred.

    Solve the problem

    If you do not have to debug this problem, you must use certain basic troubleshooting techniques:

    • Make sure you have enough disk space.
    • If a driver is identified in the bug check message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver updates.
    • Try changing video cards.
    • Check with your hardware vendor for updates to the BIOS.
    • Disable the BIOS memory options such as implementing caching or shading.

    If you plan to debug this problem, you may find it difficult to get a stack trace. Parameter 2 (the address of the exception) should identify the driver or function that caused the problem.

    If you do not know the specific cause of the exception, consider the following:

    • Hardware incompatibility. Ensure that all new equipment installed is listed in the list of the products tested Microsoft Windows market.
    • Service driver or defective peripheral system. A chauffeur service or defective peripheral system could be responsible for this error. The hardware problems, such as BIOS incompatibilities, conflicts of memory and IRQ conflicts can also generate this error.

    If the verification of the message bug list a driver by name, disable or remove that driver. In addition, disable or remove drivers or services that have been recently added. If the error occurs during the startup sequence and the system partition is formatted with the NTFS file system, you may be able to use Safe Mode to rename or to delete the faulty driver. If the driver is used as part of the start-up procedure of the system Safe Mode, you must start the computer by using the Recovery Console to access the file.

    If the problem is associated with Win32k.sys, the source of the error may be a third-party remote control program. If this software is installed, you can remove the system startup service using the recovery and then Console by removing the offending system service file.

    Check the system log in Event Viewer for additional error messages that might help identify the device or driver responsible for control of bug 0x1E. You can disable the cache in memory of the BIOS to try to resolve the error. You must also run the diagnostics of material, especially the scanner memory, which provides the manufacturer of the system. For more information about these procedures, see the manual of your computer.

    The error that generates this message may occur after the first reboot during Windows Setup, or after installation is complete. A possible cause of the error is lack of disk space for installation and the system BIOS incompatibilities. For any problems during the installation of Windows that are associated with lack of disk space, reduce the number of files on the hard disk drive target. Search and delete temporary files that you do not have to have, files hidden Internet, application backup files and files saved .chk , which contain fragments of files on disk scans. You can also use an another hard disk drive with more free space for the installation.

    You can solve the problems of BIOS by upgrading the version of the system BIOS

    BCCode: 8th 0x0000008E is the same as 0x1000008E<-- read="">
    * 1151.html? order = date http://www.faultwire.com/solutions-fatal_error/kernel-mode-exception-not-HANDLED-0x0000008E-

    =============================================

    Look in the Event Viewer to see if something is reported on those.
    http://www.computerperformance.co.UK/Vista/vista_event_viewer.htm

    MyEventViewer - free - a simple alternative in the standard Windows Event Viewer.
    TIP - Options - Advanced filter allows you to see a period of time instead of the entire file.

    http://www.NirSoft.NET/utils/my_event_viewer.html

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Also this, so you can see the probable bluescreens.

    Windows Vista restarts automatically if your computer encounters an error that requires him to plant.
    http://www.winvistatips.com/disable-automatic-restart-T84.html

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    It comes to my convenience store generic bluescreen:

    Here are a few ways to possibly fix the blue screen issue. If you could give the info to blue screen
    This would help. Such as ITC and 4 others entered at the bottom left. And another error
    information such as the STOP codes and info like IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL or PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA and similar messages.

    As examples:

    BCCode: 116
    BCP1: 87BC9510
    BCP2: 8C013D80
    BCP3: 00000000
    BCP4: 00000002

    or in this format:

    Stop: 0 x 00000000 (oxoooooooo oxoooooooo oxoooooooo oxooooooooo)
    Tcpip.sys - address blocking 0 x 0 00000000 000000000 DateStamp 0 x 000000000

    It is an excellent tool for displaying the blue screen error information

    BlueScreenView scans all your minidump files created during 'blue screen of death '.
    hangs and displays information about all accidents of a table - free
    http://www.NirSoft.NET/utils/blue_screen_view.html

    BlueScreens many are caused by old or damaged, in particular the video drivers drivers however
    There are other causes.

    You can do without if needed fail or the Vista DVD or recovery command prompt mode
    Options if your system was installed by the manufacturer.

    This tells you how to access the System Recovery Options and/or a Vista DVD
    http://windowshelp.Microsoft.com/Windows/en-us/help/326b756b-1601-435e-99D0-1585439470351033.mspx

    You can try a system restore to a point before the problem started when one exists.

    How to make a Vista system restore
    http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/76905-System-Restore-how.html

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Start - type this into the search-> find COMMAND to top box and RIGHT CLICK-
    RUN AS ADMIN

    Enter this at the command prompt - sfc/scannow

    How to analyze the log file entries that the Microsoft Windows Resource Checker
    (SFC.exe) program generates in Windows Vista cbs.log
    http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/928228

    The log can give you the answer if there is a corrupted driver. (Says not all possible
    driver problems).

    Also run CheckDisk, so we cannot exclude as much as possible of the corruption.

    How to run the check disk at startup in Vista
    http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/67612-check-disk-Chkdsk.html

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Often drivers up-to-date will help, usually video, sound, network card (NIC), WiFi, part 3
    keyboard and mouse, as well as of other major device drivers.

    Look at the sites of the manufacturer for drivers - and the manufacturer of the device manually.
    http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driverssupport/HT/driverdlmfgr.htm

    How to install a device driver in Vista Device Manager
    http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/193584-Device-Manager-install-driver.html

    How to disable automatic driver Installation in Windows Vista - drivers
    http://www.AddictiveTips.com/Windows-Tips/how-to-disable-automatic-driver-installation-in-Windows-Vista/
    http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730606 (WS.10) .aspx

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    How to fix BlueScreen (STOP) errors that cause Windows Vista to shut down or restart
    quit unexpectedly
    http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/958233

    Troubleshooting, STOP error blue screen Vista
    http://www.chicagotech.NET/Vista/vistabluescreen.htm

    Understanding and decoding BSOD (blue screen of death) Messages
    http://www.Taranfx.com/blog/?p=692

    Windows - troubleshooting blue screen errors
    http://KB.wisc.edu/page.php?id=7033

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    In some cases, it may be necessary.

    The Options or Vista recovery disk Startup Repair

    How to do a startup repair
    http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/91467-startup-repair.html

    This tells you how to access the System Recovery Options and/or a Vista DVD
    http://windowshelp.Microsoft.com/Windows/en-us/help/326b756b-1601-435e-99D0-1585439470351033.mspx

    I hope this helps.

    Rob Brown - MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Bike - Mark Twain said it right.

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