Any chance to start in Snow leopard?

On an iMac 2012 end running Yosemite; I just received 2 replacements for OWC external hard drives and am trying to re-cloning, moving the clones, other backups, etc., etc.

I have an old clone of a previous iMac 10.6 bootable and want to keep, but the chances of getting any Mac that's going to be that time is very thin, so I was wondering if I should just ditch that clone or anyone could actually boot from an external 10.6.x wired to a newer Mac?

Mac Pro 2012 models can be started in Snow Leopard, and any Intel Mac can run Mac OS X Server 10.6 in emulation.

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