ISCSI and FC SAN VI 3.5

Hello gurus!

I have a VI 3.5 with FC SAN environment, but now we need more hard drive space. I think the use of ISCSI SAN, but some people says that it is not correct (unstable) to use ISCSI and FC SAN in the same environment.

What do you think of this?

Thank you!

You can always have FC, ISCSI and NFS presented to the same ESX Server, it will not come into conflict each other as long as you do not present the same logic of FC and ISCSI each unit number.

Craig

vExpert 2009

Malaysia, VMware communities - http://www.malaysiavm.com

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