Network: 2 routers Apple broadcasting separate wireless networks; one (Xfinity/Comcast) cable modem

Hello community!  Need help, I want to use two routers to establish two separate wireless networks on a cable modem connection.  I searched for my answer and see some other threads on this topic, but all are either a bit too technical for me, are incomplete on the answers to my questions - and all seem to be locked.  I have also searched YouTube and only see videos to extend a network with two routers - not my goal.  So here is a long, but a detailed post on what I need someone help with - thank you very much in advance if anyone can all small-not me-I hope it will be useful to others in the future.

The program installation/hardware: I have internet Comcast/Xfinity that runs to a Motorola surfboard cable modem (SB6141).  I also have two routers apple - a Time Capsule from Apple AirPort (to end 2013) and a new (2016) AirPort Extreme.

Purpose: This is what I need--I need two separate wireless networks.  Before going further, by using the guest account and 5 GHz of a single router isn't an option for me.  I need to have both wireless networks separate (one of each router), do not talk to each other, or allow access between the two - the only is that they share the Comcast internet gateway.

My plan is to have the cable modem Surfboard connect to airport Time Capsule, which will then connect to AirPort Extreme (even if it could be reverse - no difference, except that the data that I show below comes from the time Capsule, which is currently connected to the modem cable).

To read the previous discussions, it seems that the starting point would be: modem router #1 Ethernet WAN, then a router cable #1 LAN Ethernet to the Router #2.

First issue of clarification - the connecting cable should go to the Ethernet WAN port on the Router #2 or a LAN Ethernet port?

Now that the first easy question is the road, I need help to configure two routers connected to allow two separate networks.  A lot of discussions about the positions of static IP addresses, cascade, etc..  I need specific help with AirPort Utility on what to change on what router.  It seems obvious that the settings under the 'Internet' and 'Network' tabs are those who need to set - the 'wireless' tabs simply treats the name of the wireless network and settings - these, at least I can understand!

I'll organise this tabbed - here go us.

First of all, the "Internet" tab/window Airport utility. Here are the options:

Connect using: Router #1 has currently DHCP (which I think is OK?) What should it be set to Router #2?

This tab lists also the current address in IPv4, the (255.255.254.0) subnet mask and the router address.

It has grayed out information in the boxes for the DNS servers; Name of domain and DNS IPv6 servers.  At the bottom of the window, there is an IPv6 Internet WAN address listed.

If I click on the "Internet Options" button at the bottom of the window, it takes me to the 'Internet Options' window. Here, there are various IPv6 information - it seems that I can choose the configuration of IPv6 and the IPv6 mode using the drop down boxes/selections were also chosen.  There is also a checkbox 'Enable IPv6 connection sharing'. Are the current settings for these for Router #1: configure IPv6: automatically; IPv6 mode: Native; and check/yes to enable sharing of IPv6.

Next up, the 'Network' tab utility AirPort/window.

Here, there is a drop-down menu "Router Mode", a DHCP range listed, and the ability to add or remove reservations DHCP and Port settings.  The DHCP range listed for Router #1 is 10.0.1.2 to 10.0.1.200.  There is currently no reserves DHCP or specified Port settings.  Finally, there is a checkbox to the bottom to "Activate the access control" - it is not currently checked/enabled.

If I click on the 'Network Options' button at the bottom of the window, it takes me to the "Networking Options" window Here I have areas of entry to specify the DHCP lease duration, can specify the DHCP IPv4 range, as well as part of the extended DHCP IPv4 comments.  There are checkboxes: enable NAT Port Mapping Protocol. Select the host by default (with input if selected text box); Enable the IGMP Snooping; Block incoming IPv6 connections; Allow the Teredo Tunnels; and allow inbound IPSec authentication.

For this window, here is the current settings on the Router #1:

DHCP lease is 1 day; Beach DHCP IPv6 is 10.1.2 to 200; Hosts IPv4 DHCP Range is 172.16.42.2 to 200.  The following check boxes are enabled/checked: enable NAT Port Mapping Protocol. Block incoming IPv6 connections; And allow inbound IPSec authentication.

Who can help me? What parameters, if all do I need to change the #1 router?  How to set up router #2 to make a second wireless network?

Purpose: This is what I need--I need two separate wireless networks.  Before going further, by using the guest account and 5 GHz of a single router isn't an option for me.  I need to have both wireless networks separate (one of each router), do not talk to each other, or allow access between the two - the only is that they share the Comcast internet gateway.

What you really need is a combination router / Ethernet switches that s supports VLANdedicated. Given that Apple routers do not, at best, you can potentially get the results that you are looking for, but at a performance cost. In other words, you can have two separate WiFi networks where clients connected to a network can not 'see' those related to another and both routers will always provide access to the Internet through Comcast modem. Note: Arris / Motorola SB6141 isn't a gateway device. Instead, it's a simple modem. A gateway is a router modem combination.

To do this, should do the following:

  • The Time Capsule (TC) would need to be directly connected to the modem using an Ethernet cable. This base station would remain in its default configuration of the router. In other words, the router Mode (in AirPort Utility) would establish: DHCP and NAT.
  • AirPort Extreme would be directly linked to TB by Ethernet. The cable must be connected to one of the LAN ports on the TC on the WAN port to the extreme. It must also be configured as a router. However, there are differences in the extreme:
    • Use a different name to the Wi - Fi network.
    • Use another range of IP DHCP address. By default, Apple base stations use IP addresses in the 10.0.x.x range. I suggest that you set the base station of the second on 192.168.x.x range.

There is a major drawback with this configuration. The second base station will be in a State of "Double NAT". Although this "separating" the two networks on different subnets, this condition is not very effective and connected to this network of customers will get lower throughput performance. There is no way around it and it is not recommended.

First of all, the "Internet" tab/window Airport utility. Here are the options:

Connect using: Router #1 has currently DHCP (which I think is OK?) What should it be set to Router #2?

The two should be: DHCP.

This tab lists also the current address in IPv4, the (255.255.254.0) subnet mask and the router address.

These leave it as what. The TC is information of IP address of the modem. The extreme, he'll get the TC.

It has grayed out information in the boxes for the DNS servers; Name of domain and DNS IPv6 servers.  At the bottom of the window, there is an IPv6 Internet WAN address listed.

These leave it as what.

If I click on the "Internet Options" button at the bottom of the window, it takes me to the 'Internet Options' window. Here, there are various IPv6 information - it seems that I can choose the configuration of IPv6 and the IPv6 mode using the drop down boxes/selections were also chosen.  There is also a checkbox 'Enable IPv6 connection sharing'. Are the current settings for these for Router #1: configure IPv6: automatically; IPv6 mode: Native; and check/yes to enable sharing of IPv6.

Unless your ISP provides your IPv6 service, change the IPv6 configuration option to: 'Link-local only' on two base stations.

Here, there is a drop-down menu "Router Mode", a DHCP range listed, and the ability to add or remove reservations DHCP and Port settings.  The DHCP range listed for Router #1 is 10.0.1.2 to 10.0.1.200.  There is currently no reserves DHCP or specified Port settings.  Finally, there is a checkbox to the bottom to "Activate the access control" - it is not currently checked/enabled.

Router mode should be: DHCP and NAT to two base stations. Ignore the DHCP reservations and Port settings for now. Let the current DHCP range for the TC. Change the DHCP range for extreme for: 192.168.1.2 a.200. At this point do not access control for each base station.

Since you seem to need the step by step instructions or need help to understand the different terms networking, I highly recommend that you help you to become familiar with networking, specifically on Apple systems. I suggest you consider taking the e-Book to the next control: take control of your Wi - Fi Applehttps://www.takecontrolbooks.com/apple-wifi network

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    FWIW Windows 7 has been configured with the default settings and the only changes to the host's network were those made during the installation of VMware Workstation 7.1.3 so with the configuration I discussed with the attached picture, there is no reason why the host and the guest cannot be on different physical networks and each network/Internet connectivity based on the information I have provided and they be isolated from each other by being on separate physical networks.

    That said, even if they can be isolated by being on separate physical networks can still can connectivity between the 2 through VMware shared folders it it turned on and of course & slide and other services so if absolute isolation is necessary to the point where it can be, and the guest still operating system run on a Virtual Machine in the host you would need to disable the Backdoor for VMware Tools cannot provide shared folders on VMware, & glide and other services.  So if you need this isolation level let me know and I will provide additional information to complete it.

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