Thoughts on vmotion between Intel processors. Success?
We currently have a cluster with processors Intel X 5540. I think to add a few servers with the new X 5650 processors. Has anyone tried for vmotion on these processors? According to vmware, the process is expermential and I need to apply the mask to the SSA to do. Just curious to know if anyone has had any success in the real world, before I have to buy new servers.
Actually, my bad. Turn on I don't installed U1 on my server vCenter, so it wasn't able to recognize the CPU as a VCA couldn't. As soon as I upgraded vCenter to the latest version, all came good. VCA is now working with happiness between a X 5650 and two E5345s.
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Evening ladies and gentlemen.
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