Measurement of current with NI 9219

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• measurement of current with usb-6009

  Hi, my name is hung and I am a student in electrical engineering... I'm doing a thesis that the project using Labview and acquisition of data NOR UBS-6009 to simulate the function generator, Oscilloscope, Digital Microsoft (DMM)... and now I'm simulating DMM. I managed to measure the voltage and resistance which i use voltage divider method, but I encountered a problem with the current measurement. The problem is the USB-6009 to measure use the current, it measures an incorrect value. I tried to use the current CQI 0-20mA Sample.vi example but it always measures an incorrect value. If NI USB-6009 supports for the measuring current? Is there a way to measure the currents using USB-6009? Please, help me. This thesis project is so important for me. Thank you.

  Hung,

  Since you are a student in electrical engineering, I'll show you how to know the answers to your questions.

  1. review the specifications for the USB-6009 case.  In particular look at the specifications of analog input.

  2. How would you measure current if you had only a voltmeter?  Use the same method with the USB-6009 case.  (Tip: apply the Ohm's law).

  General comment: when using any measuring instrument, always consider maximum permitted values at the entrances so that the instrument is not damaged

  and the measure is accurate.

  Let us know how you do.

  Lynn

• Measurement of current with NI6250

  Hello

  I use the 6250 OR for certain analyses of analog input.  In addition, I want to measure the current that I supply to the unit under test.  The current is about 300 my.

  I thought to use a shunt at 2 ohms resistance, so lowering the supply voltage of 0.6V and not having not too low-voltage measures.  I intend to adjust the votage of 9.6 V power supply to get 9V after the shunt resistance, because I'm supposed to provide.

  1. any comments or better suggestions for this?

  2. I will calculate the current by measuring the voltage on the resistance.  The question is I will use 2 unique inputs or differential input?

  3 you are looking for in table 4-3, page 4-12 of the M Series DAQ - user manual, I see an application of a differential input voltage.  There, they put 2 pull down of the resistance to Earth.  I do as well?  Can't I just apply the 2 lines of resistance, directly at the entrance of diff?

  4. am I suppose to connect the ALWAYS to my power supply GND?

  Thank you

  Rafi

  In your case, the differential is the way to go. You don't need resistance more bias from (drop) current if your PS is connected to (A) MASS somewhere anyway.

• measurement of current with usb6008

  Hello

  I use a PMT detector whose output signal varies from 0 µA to 100 microamperes, but must remain lower than 100 µA. I put a 100 kilo-Ohm resistor in the line signal and, using a voltmeter, I can measure the voltage at the terminals of the resistance and calculate the current. I would replace the voltmeter with my USB6008. However, when you use a differential pair of channels to measure the voltage on each side of the resistance, the current wells USB6008 and affects the signal.

  Is there a way to measure current without affecting the signal?

  Kind regards

  Oliver.

  Oliver,

  The 6008 sheet indicates that the AI input impedance is 144K ohms.  Far too low for what you're trying to do.  If you're stuck with the help of the 6008, I would consider using an instrumentation amplifier (AMP02 comes to mind http://www.analog.com/en/amplifiers-and-comparators/instrumentation-amplifiers/amp02/products/produc...)

  to build a celled amplifier with a gain of 1 to act as a buffer.  Input high impedance which does not load your source microamp, a lot of training for the 6008 entry.

• Measures of constraints with the NI 9219

  Hi all

  I join this forum and I need bit of advise on measurement of deformation using NI 9219 with lab view.

  I followed the procedure and settings to configure a virtual channel to strain under global virtual channel of NI DAQ mx.

  I need some clarification on strain gauge measures:

  1. If I use 1 quarter bridge configuration should I NI 9219 completion resistors?

  2.i have ordered strain gauges, but I can imitate the calculations of strain with labview gauge using a variable resistor instead of active Gages? as I understand, it's strain gauges to change resistance when the force is applied.based on this notion if I use a variable resistor on one leg of wheatstone bridge and plot the data? all I want is to play with lab view until I get the real strain gauges. (will take a week to get deleivered)

  3. affecting the internal Vex I think that I will not need to apply any voltage to the terminals of the bridge as the strain of installation window.i would just need to connect to the ends of the stone bridge of wheat to the PIN number 3 and 5 in the comment of 9129.please OR who...

  I have to really thank and appreciate all of you for taking the time and reading/commneting on my post.

  Kind regards

  Ali

  Hi Engr_tech,

  9219 a resistance integrated half-bridge completion, but for quarter-bridge measures, it must rely on resistance measurements 2 son.  It does not support the measures of quarter 3-wire bridge.  I'm not familiar with the help of a variable resistor instead an active gauge so I can't comment on that.  Looks like your #3 idea would work, although I'm not 100% certain.  It will be unsupported, but it could work.

• SMU, used for the measurement of current

  Hello

  I need to measure current in the range 5 to exit 10uA by a current source PIN. I would have usually connected PXI4065 on this PIN and measured current. But in this case the current to be measured is low.

  I have EMS 4130, which has high accuracy of current measurement to 200mA range (0.03%+0.02)uA.

  

  Can I use the current part of the EMS (CH1) measurement to measure current? What should I activate CV outputs (Hi = 0V) who appears in the soft front panel?

  Or just without activating the outputs I can measure the current sink. The program of flexible panel displays current measurements, but I don't know if the EMS can be used like that.

  Thank you

  Not sure NI SMEs, as I have not had the chance to use it yet.  SMU of Agilent could be used this way, so I guess with OR as well.  You must use out SMU in constant voltage source / I measure mode.  Would you say the SMU to hold the voltage at 0V, and allow current to the sink (or source) as necessary to maintain this 0V output.

• Measurement of current and voltage USB-4065

  I have an application where I need to measure the direct current and the voltage. The current and voltage will be stable if the measures do not need to be simultaneous. I would use a USB-4065 to the two measures. I've seen the kb indicating the voltage inputs must be disconnected when the measurement current. The current inputs must be separated for a measure of tension?

  Hi Collin,

  I think that you are referencing this knowledge base.  After a few tests, and worked with the R & D group, it seems that the effects of input connections are perceived during the passage of two ways.  When the current entries are connected, a less accurate voltage reading occurs.  As such, please disconnect the current inputs for a measure of tension (as well as disconnect with tension when taking a measurement of current entries, who you know).

• measure temperature pt100 with cRIO9211

  I can measure the temperature with a pt100 in cRIO9211? I wanted to measure of 0 ° c to 100 ° c...

  Can someone please show me how?

  Thank you very much

  Best regards

  Hello

  Thanks for posting your question on the forum of National Instruments.

  Unfortunately, you can't have a RTD (generally with a PT100 probe) measure on a module 9211.

  9211 module is dedicated to the use of thermocouples.

  I suggest that you use a 9217 or 9219 rather (more information here).

  I hope this answer will help you.

  Best regards

• Measure the resistance with PXI DMM 4072 on different frequencies

  Hi all

  I tried to get on board various and unable to find solutions for that. I'm trying to measure resistance using NI PXI-4072 on frequencey 1 kHz, but not luck. When I try to use Agilent LCR meter I see the correct value of the resistance.

  I've seen a few posts on this but don't have no satisfactory solutions.

  http://forums.NI.com/T5/Digital-Multimeters-DMMs-and/LCRmeter-test-frequency-for-resistance-measurem...

  In above post, someone said that I can use 4072 DMM OR digitizer, does not have a lot.

  Can someone please provide the right path for me to solve this problem.

  Thank you

  Hello Puneet_K,

  I checked the data sheet and the method of measurement described in the specifications of the NI 4070/4072 http://www.ni.com/pdf/manuals/371304g.pdf; indicates that the ability is measured using an alternating signal and select the test frequency range, for example 3 kHz, 1kH or 91 Hz. The resistance is simply measured using a DC signal, and it is often sufficient to measure the internal resistance of a battery. If you need a more flexible control for the measurement, you probably get a card like the function generator and then set a multimeter to measure the voltage and another DMM to measure the current and calculate the impedance of these values.

  I hope this helps!

  Kind regards

  -Natalia

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• Need help with measurement excitation current OR 9219 Module

  Hello

  I have problems to find the answer to my question.  My question is...  How do you analyze the excitation of a 9219 module current?  It seems that the excitation current which is specified (0.0005 (A) is not what is provided at the exit.  With a load of KOhm 10.5 a 0.00025 current is output.  As the resistance changes as the current and measured excitation voltage seems to change.  I just need to know the resistance... So, if I can monitor the voltage and current I can calculate the resistace.  BTW, why don't the current excitement remains fixed in the first place?

  Thank you

  Nate

  Hi Nate-

  In almost all modes of the 9219, the current and the voltage automatically adjusts to the load it experiences.  The resistance is then measured according to the amount of current and voltage sunk by the load.  This is explained in 9219 User Guide and specifications.  The guide also States the the 9219 input impedance according to which mode it is.

  I hope this helps.  Good luck with your application!

• Measures of current between 4071 and 2575 sometimes not correct

  I use mode of handshake with a PXI-4071 scan list and an SMU-2575.

  The DMM is current and the MUX is in mode 1 x 196.

  When running the scan list, I have rarely (randomly) get a very small extent to the nA au (when to 4-20 MA). I'll run the scan list again and that the channel will be correct, so it seems not to match a channel.
  I tried to increase the time of settling of the DMM and the MUX, but have had no effect.

  Any help would be great.

  Thank you

  Caleb Swieson

  After further tests, we determined that it was indeed the devices to measure who pulled out the very low currents. So it wasn't the fault of the hardware. Oops

• Measure the current and voltage using DMM sharing a port

  I want to measure pressure several times on a pcb, where I connect the ports of digital multimeters to the card using simple cards. Switching between the different voltages is done using simple. If the black port of DMM (the second from the top photo) is connected to the Earth to give the measure correct volt.

  

  And then I want to measure current through different lines. The problem is here. Given that two measurement types share a port, how do I get the correct voltage and current measurement? The second port of top would be grounded, so I can't use the method of measuring the voltage across the line through a resistance with a known value, since then the second port must not be connected to the ground. How can I use the current state of the DMM measurement? How measure current? Are there examples of this? Tried looking through manuals, but could not find the good starting points.

  

  so I can't use the method of measuring the voltage across the line through a resistance with a known value, since then the second port must not be connected to the ground.

  On all of my games to test I have to mux my land of the signal along with the salvation of my signals.

  All my mux test sets are set up for the topology 2-wire because there is no other way to do it without the weak side of switch also.

• Measurment LVDT DC with CompactDAQ

  Hello

  I am currently working with reading as a result of an LVDT for a project that the present model is the DC LVDT Omega LD620-25

  According to the data sheet's model requires a voltage of 10-30 v and a maximum current of 25ma

  http://www.Omega.com/pptst/LD620.html

  with regard to the available data acquisition modules: the NI 9237 and the 9220 OR by using a module compactDAQ

  as the NI9237 has an internal output of 150mW obtained maximum current is 15ma, simply use?

  the 9220 OR will be used for the acquisition of data but provides no port of excitement!

  as for the solution another I thought using an AC adapter / CC of normal 12Vdc 100ma with a variable pot or a circuit voltage divider to provide the necessary tension

  but I have several concerns with respect to the Earth circuit. in this system, I will have two independent reasons!

  What will be the best solution to connect the LVDT module to the 9220 OR and provide a source of external excitation?

  Thank you

  Hello ghattas.ak

  Consider the NI 9218. It can provide 12V exictation to ~ 50 mA per channel and read 5 or output 10V DC LVDT. To use this excitement 12V, 9 - 30V power supply must be connected at the Vsup pins. As you said, you can also use the 9220 OR with external excitation. The NI 9237 measuring range of +/-25 mV/V does not cover the 5 or 10 v output sensor you.

  See you soon,.

  Izzy O.

  Product Support Engineer

  National Instruments

  NI.com/support

• Resource reserved with NI 9219 module error

  Hello

  I use the NI 9219 read 3 analog inputs (2 current and 1 tension).  I have a two VI for playback the output current of the pressure sensors and other for the thermocouple. When I run them at the same time I get error related to the reserved resource and data are read only. How can I remove this error and get data of the pressure transducers and the thermocouple at the same time. Thank you

  Sylvie

  Have you done a search for this error? This is a very common mistake. You must have all the measures in a single task.